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fairdose
Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: Do cheaters ever REALLY get justice served? |
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I was involved with someone in an affair, he was and is married and has kids. When I found out the truth, I immediately walked away from the situation. For all I know he can be seeing someone else now, God knows he has the opportunity, he's a professor and has nubile students around him all the time.
This is what I have a hard time stomaching: He has the nerve to say "Hi" to me and act as if nothing ever happened and that we were somehow friends. As if. I was devastated for such a long time, it just didn't seem fair that he could get away scott-free return to the wife and kids and continue living the white picket fence perfect life in the suburbs while I was completely broken down.
People always say things in situations like this, like "Don't worry he'll get his" or "Karma always catches up to everyone" etc.
I know part of my healing process is to eventually forgive him, but that's a long way off. Part of the problem is that I need to know that he is suffering or will suffer as much I have. Until that happens, it's hard for me to get over the anger and hurt.
This is my question: Do they ever REALLY get justice served in this lifetime? Does anyone here have stories of these cheaters karma catching up to them? |
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__penchant
Joined: 11 Jan 2009 Posts: 54
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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this will be kinda long, since it spanned several years.
when i started college i met a very charismatic guy.. he was in one of my classes and sat by me. im very shy and have a rough time making friends, but he started talking to me and we clicked instantly. it felt as though id been reunited with an old friend.
over the following months he started expressing an interest in me sexually.. i was also interested, but eventually developed a crush on him. when it started becoming painful for me to simply mess around with him, i let him know that i had feelings. but he didnt want a relationship with me.
he was a senior at the time, and soon graduated. we became physically distant, only visiting once a month and rarely doing anything sexual. but he would send me instant messages or call me all the time. he was one of those people that hides their true self from their friends, and for some reason he decided to use me as a truth-recepticle. this meant that i got to hear all his horrible secrets, but was never allowed to meet his friends. i did accidentally meet two of them, and he immediately played it off that i was just a girl in one of his classes.
he also told me about all the girls he was playing around with, as though we were still only friends. it hurt so much. eventually he found a girlfriend, and of course told me all about her. a few months into the relationship he started to reeeeally like her, but found out that she was moving to a different state.
during one of our monthly visits, he propositioned me.. and i reminded him that he had a girlfriend. he said he wanted me anyway, and that i provided him with something he couldnt find in other people. i still liked him and wanted him so i told him to break up with her properly before we did anything, and he said that she was moving anyway and he would break up with her privately once he got home. so he cheated on her with me, and then didnt break up with her until after she moved. i didnt see him much after that. i felt used.
a few months passed, and i started to get over him bit by bit.. and met a wonderfully nice guy who helped speed it up. the nice guy and i started dating.. and lo and behold, mr charismatic shows up. he asks how things are going, i tell him ive found someone wonderful, and he insists that i leave the wonderful guy because.. wait for it.. he loves me. somehow or other i had enough sense not to leave my boyfriend for him, and this royally pissed him off. mr charismatic is a rich guy with little to no commitment anywhere, so he almost immediately packed up and went to try and win his ex back. i felt bad that i hurt him.. and slightly angry that it ended up that way.
she foolishly accepted this guy (she still has no idea that he cheated on her).. and he stayed up there for a very long time, periodically messaging me to tell me how great everything is going for him. i tell him thats nice, and everything is great with me too. the bf and i stayed together, and after almost a year, i get a strange message from mr charismatic, who says he has something important to tell me. he says he has cancer. i admit i didnt believe him, but felt slightly bad for him just in case it was true.
a few months later, he says he's in the hospital and hasnt been able to eat or drink. i feel really bad for him, but still question if he's being honest or not. he tells me that its getting bad rapidly, and that hes going to move back home to be with his family. i ask about his gf, and he says she hasnt visited him while hes been in the hospital, and that he broke up with her because of that. i silently think to myself that ill believe it when i see it.
during this time, my bf and i start arguing a lot. he wants to do one thing, and i want to do another. he broke up with me. mr charismatic is suddenly "there for me" via text messaging, and saying how sorry he is to hear it. by now, i am a senior in college. he has already moved back home, and he asks if he can visit with me. i tell him no several times, and then finally one month i give in and say ok.. the reason ? he says he has something to confess.
i of course immediately wonder if hes going to tell me that he isnt sick. so we meet on campus, and when i see him i realize his skin looks very strange.. he indeed looked sick, but i have no idea if its actually cancer. either way, i felt bad for doubting that he was. we joked and laughed like old times, and he asked if we could leave campus and hang out together in private. i said no. he asks why i do not trust him, and i say i do not trust anyone currently. (still bitter over losing my ex) he says i might have reason not to trust him, and i asked him to explain. he said that his confession is that he never wanted a relationship with me, and that he'd told me that he did while i was with my now-ex because he didnt want to lose my friendship. i realize he never loved me, and that i felt bad all this time for no reason. he asks me to forgive him, and i launch a clump of dirt at him and tell him to go away.
he then starts laughing and says, "well i met the woman i want to marry." i know he isnt talking about me, and i glare at him, and he says he met her recently but cant marry her because hes just going to die anyway. for the first time, i didnt feel bad. i just kind of laughed in my head like a demented person.
we havent spoke since, though he tries to ask my forgiveness via text every month or two. he doesnt realize that i have forgiven him, and just dont need anyone like that in my life anymore. there is definitely karma.. you just might not be witnessing it firsthand. |
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apinkcar
Joined: 15 Nov 2008 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:09 am Post subject: My case I hope so |
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In my case people have told me you should leave thing alone. But after he ran away from me like a coward , with a stripper i realized I need to get reveage Come to find out she has a police record that i plan on posting it all over the internet. yea is might sound childish but it will make me happy after the pain i suffer. |
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barbie1mb
Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 1
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject: What do I do now? |
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| I have been divorced for 2 years and have had a dated a couple guys and there have only been 2 that stole my heart and guess what, the first dumped me and went back to his girlfriend and married her, ouch the second I met a full year later and 4 days ago I get a call from his gf of 3 years. Turns out he is going through a divorce but has been seeing her for three years. He has 3 beautiful kids who he brought around both of us. I can only assume he had to tell them to keep it hush hush. The worst part is he had her open a bank account to deposit his money, he is a landscaper so gets paid in cash, so he won't have to pay child support. My delimma is do I wait for karma or do I tell the wife he may or may not be divorcing? I hate drama in my life but where does it end with these guys. By the way, the married called my phone recently, are there any good guys left. Oh yeah, why do men like to text us pictures of their dick, don't they know that is NOT A TURN ON!!! |
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avaluna8
Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: Give cheaters back what they deserve! |
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| My husband was cheating on me repeatedly!! It was so painful, just when I thought it was over with the other woman it was never over! Devastating! The the way I got him back for all the pain I endured was to post his name and his disgusting behavior on axelist.com --And boy did many, many people recognize him. That was so satisfying!! |
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MovingOn2009
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 20
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:05 pm Post subject: Married Men Cheating, Steven John Krantz,Laguna Niguel, CA |
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Avalun8,
I am so sorry you had to experience you husband's behavior. When I met my ex, he told me his divorce would be final in a few weeks and he wanted to start dating someone. He was the one who first spoke the words. "I love you". I later discovered he was still living with his wife, and he also had a girl friend of 7 years, who cheated with him and knew his wife. I also found his active profiles on gay men's websites. He eve had his penis showing on one.
I was really devastated because I loved Steven. He treated like a queen.
His sister, Laurie Krantz and his girfriend Lori Reattoire, Manassas or Opal, VA tried to bad mouth me and play down how he felt about me. Read my blog. I am sure there have got to be women on this site, who have met him. Perhaps, they were embarrassed. No woman should experience the Steven John Nightmare. I wonder what is really going on with is wife mentally and emotionally. I have a feeling she knew the whole situation before I became involved.
Read the nightmare: http://moveontowhere.blogspot.com/ |
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gettineven922
Joined: 20 Feb 2009 Posts: 5
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:18 pm Post subject: bad karma YES |
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I hope these bad men have bad karma when they cheat and abuse. My soon to be ex-husband is a cheater, abuser and liar. He has hurt me emotionally so many times I can't even count the times! He had an emotional affair with a stripper and took the money we both made and put it towards her and her kids! We have a child and lots and lots of debt! Why would he take my money that i worked so hard for and throw it away on her? I am so angry and hurt.. I feel that there is no end to the pay back he is getting. I refuse to sit back and be the victim/martyr and allow him to get away with what he did to me and our child! I threw him in jail when he dragged me by my hair and when he kept me captive in our bed for 5 hours. I put a temporary restraining order on him but the judge threw it out because his family helped pay for a trial attorney who turned things around and made it look like i was nuts. Why are women called crazy bitches when they have been hurt so much? Am I crazy to want revenge on him? Not only do I want him to suffer but i want his family who have told me many times while we were together that i need to do something about how he treats me but then turned around and stabbed me in the back saying I was wrong for giving him what he deserved - I want them to suffer too. They all are evil back stabbers and never cared about his treatment towards me. All of a sudden he is the victim because he spent 2 hours in a holding cell in a police station and was thrown out of his home for 2 months and had all of our furniture (that my parents bought) taken out of his home. That is nothing!!!!!! He needs to crawl on his knees begging me for forgiveness. He doesn't deserve to see his child! He has some nerve telling me I need to go for anger management! Therapy! What will that do? Help me suppress my feelings again????
I have suppressed my feelings for 10 years!!!!! I understand that we both will suffer bad karma because what I am doing is very hurtful too but it's worth it! |
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Cviper1992
Joined: 01 Mar 2009 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: I hate this guy and don't recommend u date him |
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There was this guy that I dated (long distance), lets just name him M. M and I dated the end of my freshman year and the end of his junior year. I thought we were happy together and he was my everything. Everytime i thought of him, my heart would pound. We talked on video games and on the phone sometimes. He was the best boyfriend I could possibly have, or so I thought. Well, one day he got in a fight with his mom, I remember the day like it just happened (August 8th 2007) and I got so worried about him, because he ran away from home, that i could feel my stomach tightening and I started to cry and pray hoping that he would be alright. I called him about 2 hours later and I could tell he was angry, but he told me he would call me back in a hour and not to worry about him. Next thing you know it, I don't see him or hear from him for a month. I start to wonder what he was doing. Then when i got on this game (Battlefield 2:Modern Combat, yea im a tomboy) his brother got on and told me that M had been seeing another girl since August 28th. I was in tears and i felt like I was dead inside. Then to top it off, he had his girlfriend, lets call her JS, go off on me for "Flirting with him" because I didn't even know that they were dating when I sent him a message telling him I loved him. I even told her that and she apologized. M told her that I was flirting with him and he was talking about me all day as if he wanted to be with me over her. My sadness went into pure rage. I asked him what his problem was and why he broke up with me about 3 times but he avoided it like it was the plague. Then when I asked him the third time, he got pissed and said "If you ever message me again I will press charges on you". For what? Because you want to cheat on me and not have your "perfect" girlfriend find out the truth about you? A few days before my birthday, January 19th, I found out that JS broke up with M not only because he was always getting jealous of her hanging out with her guy friends, but because she found out about how he cheated on me. Now me and JS are good friends and Michael's upset because his perfect relationship went down the drain and now he's trying to keep me from rubbing my relationship in his face like how he did me when I had flesh wounds from what he did to me. Now I'm happy that he got what he deserved after he accused me of cheating on him and stabbing him in the back.  |
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kmcrushed
Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:21 pm Post subject: cheaters definitely get karma |
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i was with this guy for five years and had his beautiful baby girl and he cheated on me with my so called fake ass friend. he was an alcoholic and very abusive he told me that after three months after having his daughter that i should of had a abortion. Well he left without saying goodbye to get with this other bitch and i heard every time she got pregnant she had a miscarriage! how ironic i guess god don't like ugly. yes cheaters do get karma because even though he seriously did not want my child he really wanted that girls child and heres the good part she ended up dumping him by calling him at his job and he still lives with the bitch because he's stuck sharing the lease with her ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa yes yes i love my enemies god bless my enemies  |
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courtneyiscool
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 229
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:46 pm Post subject: I don't think cheaters always get karma right away. But |
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| eventually at some times in their lives, they will. I had a guy break my heart in high school. A few years later, he had 3 or 4 kids with the slut of our high school. When I saw him out, he had the nerve to say hi to me and I made sure to compliment him on how "great" his life turned out. |
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betrayedbyal
Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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do you think his wife dosent know,do you think such a selfish asshole could give her any happiness at all.My guess is of the 2 of you -your the luckiest one in the bunch,cause you excaped.Thank
God every night,you could of had kids and a house and your life be tied to an emotional black hole |
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courtneyiscool
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 229
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:01 pm Post subject: I agree with Betrayed! When I found out my guy was cheating |
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| on me, I couldn't believe it. I think I walked around in a daze for a few weeks before I realized what was really happening. It was awful, but you're lucky - you got out! |
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wkmooreh
Joined: 08 May 2009 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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OMG!!
I feel exactly the same way.
I want him to hurt me as bad as he hurt me, but I know he will catch some heat for awhile, but it wont change anything. And the sad thing is ... he WILL do it again. |
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joyhopewell
Joined: 29 May 2009 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 8:53 am Post subject: Re: My case I hope so |
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| apinkcar wrote: | In my case people have told me you should leave thing alone. But after he ran away from me like a coward , with a stripper i realized I need to get reveage Come to find out she has a police record that i plan on posting it all over the internet. yea is might sound childish but it will make me happy after the pain i suffer. |
obviously, i don't know the full story... and while it *is* possible that the "other woman" is a horrible person, it's also very possible (and in my opinion, more likely) that she's just someone who's has low self-esteem or was for some reason vulnerable/naive enough to be easy prey for a rat like your ex.
*he* is the one that had a commitment to you, and while i agree that she should not have gotten involved if she knew he had a gf, there's a chance that that she's been fed some serious lines by the guy. more often than not, if he's lying to you, he's probably been lying to her, too.
my point is that unless you really know this woman, you should probably be directing your anger at the person who knowingly betrayed you: your crappy ex.
some people might advise just turning the other cheek, but i don't think that this is always the best route.
sometimes guys like that really do need to be called out, to have someone blow their cover and alert others, and get these guys to realize that they can't just waltz from victim to victim without any repercussions.
however, choose your battles wisely.
as some women have already mentioned, a lot of these guys will try to turn things around and make *you* look like the bad guy-- don't give them that opportunity.
if you're going to fight, keep the fight clean.
do what you need to to get it out of your system, but know that
at some point, it really is best to let it go, otherwise, the only person suffering is you. |
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MovingOn2009
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 20
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject: Cheaters will manipulate, when you are seeking justice |
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JoyHopeWell, is right. Pick your battles carefully. Don't get mad at the other woman. Confront the one who betrayed you. Steven Krantz would not confront me, when I discovered the truth.He had a wife, me,and another girl, Lori, whom had cheated with him for 7 years. His other girl friend, Lori tried to bad mouth me by trying to direct her Internet ramblings toward me. He also gave her my personal email address. He also gave his sister,my telephone number and she tried to confront me.Her name is Laurie (how strange the name is similiar his other girfriend). I did not want to go through a "Jerry Springer" type ordeal with these two.
Read my blog about this lowlife man:
http://moveontowhere.blogspot.com/ |
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