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ladycarmel
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 0
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: SWINGERS |
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| I have been in the swinging lifestyle with my husband for over a year. And I have to say that it has spiced our sex life.I am sure there is alot of people against swingers. |
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Jasmine 57
Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 0
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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I hope while you have been spicing up your love life you have been using protection or you could be spicing up your death sentence.
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toots2375
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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What you mean to say is that sleeping with people other than your spouse has spiced up YOUR Sex life. Do you honestly think that because you know the other is sleeping with someone else, that you aren't cheating? What I have learned is that swingers, 99% of the time, are unattractive, overweight, and older. What I have learned is that they don't want to sleep with their spouse and it exhonorates them from guilt if they convince their spouse that an 'open relationhip' should be put into effect. Swinging is the beginning of the end. Not of your marriage, but your relationship. Cheating doesn't bring you closer, it simply puts a blindfold on a deeper issue. The deeper issue is that your relationship isn't what it should be.. Rather than confront it, you choose to ignore it and bring other people into your marriage bed.
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inlovewithlove
Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 0
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Listen LadyCarmel, I think you and your swinging lifestyle is going to be the demise of your relationship. It's clear your man wants to sleep with women other than his wife and you're stupid enough to watch! Get a grip! Get back on the forum when you get divorced.
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warrior62503
Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 0
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:51 am Post subject: |
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warrior62503
Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 0
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: |
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I am constantly amazed at the women that fall for this rubbish called ""the swinger lifestyle"". All it amounts to is ""condoned cheating"", or cheating by a different name, and it's used as an excuse to cover up cheating. Like if you call it a ""swinger lifestyle"", you're saying, ""Oh, I'm SO cool and hot that my man wants to share me! Oh, yeah! I got it going on!"" PLEASE!! A ""swinger lifestyle"" is sick and sad, and I'm sorry that you have accepted that from your so-called man. If he was a REAL man, he would want to spice up your sex life one-on-one, just you two. What a lazy scam, and what a sorry excuse for a man! Sorry sister, but you've been had. If a man really loves you, he wouldn't want to pimp you out or demean or degrade you in such a way. Lose the Zero, and get a Hero.
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toots2375
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 0
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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A relationship involves TWO people, not a crowd, not three, not four. If you don't want a relationship, then by all means, don't have one. Have yourself a swinging good time...Being single... But don't try and piss on my head and tell me it is raining.....
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qteondty
Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Posts: 6
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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no thanks if you need spice go to a darn cooking class. That is not a real or honest marriage and if you are doing that why bother going before god and getting married?
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warrior62503
Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 0
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Jay, can you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean when you say, ""Some people feel insecure with opening their relationships."" I've always considered swingers to be insecure, not secure, for ""opening their relationship"". For example, swingers are not secure with 1) their romantic spousal relationship or 2) masculinity or femininity or 3) sexuality or 4) life in general. It seems as if that ""insecure"" card is played a lot. Are you talking about a relationship that is a ""marriage of convenience"", and not a true marriage?
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toots2375
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 0
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Have you ever been married Jay? And what about your parents? married? Divorced? Remarried? Are kids involved? There are far too many questions that should be answered.. Also, there are vows that were spoken 'forsaking all others'.... Somehow, screwing the neighbor lady or some strange couple in a swingers club doesn't seem like someone forsaking all others... I COULD be wrong....But I know I am not...
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toots2375
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 0
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:37 am Post subject: |
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I have experience in the subject too. I know many swingers. Married... It doesn't affect my love for them.. It doesn't affect my friendship with t hem, however, it DOES change my opinions on their relationships and on my respect for them as a person with those morals. It isn't just women who can get sucked into it, men can as well... But ALSO you know, as well as I, that men like a wet hole. A wife giving him permission to have at other women's wet holes, giving them variety, that a large percentage of men crave, is like letting a kid loose in a candy store. Will their teeth rot out of their head? Yes. Will they get sick? Yes... WIll it ruin their health? yes indeedy.
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Jamcojay
Joined: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 0
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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I certainly understand where you are coming from. Choosing what, when, where and who you have sex with is a choice we all as individuals have the freedom to make. When you bring your spouse into the mix I can see where complications would arise. But isn't this a process of freedom of choice as well?
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Jamcojay
Joined: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 0
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: |
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warrior62503 Hi! It's the usual behavior of humans to pick a single sentence that seems to differ from their beliefs. Of all the relevant information to the topic. The word ""Refined"" seemed to stay with you.
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toots2375
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:14 am Post subject: |
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I am not offended, but I don't know about anyone else. I suspect that you are simply playing devil's advocate on this topic. You don't strike me as a swinger, nor an uneducated or ignorant man. I think you enjoy having discussions, regardless of your true stance on the issue. I suspect you can argue either side. Yes, speech and debate classes/scholarships can allow people to do that without taking offense on someone's supposed stance without getting angry. I respect your input on the topic, and you correctly assumed that I won't change my mind. It is the stance I take, not because I have been charged with taking that stance, but merely because that is my choice.
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warrior62503
Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 0
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Nor am I offended by your argument, Jay. I simply pointed out your word choice ""refined"", as you obviously and clearly wanted to give your argument more merit and desribe it more appropriately. I'm not offended by that, just wanted to bring attention to it, for it did not escape me. It was the word you chose to use. Also, my previous posts did not say that a ""swinger lifestyle"" would be the downfall of a relationship or marriage, so aside from vast research for each side of the argument available to anyone, there is nothing for me to personally prove. It is a matter of choice, based on freewill, just like anything else in life. People will defend their choice with various reasons. People stay in marriages and relationships, for various reasons, which I describe as a ""marriage of convenience"". That is why I made reference to your tea comparison and why I said a ""swinger lifestyle"" is a bitter tea, which I choose not to brew or drink of. I take the high road in believing I deserve, and every human deserves, a spiritual and divine sexual intimacy with one partner, versus a diliuted sexual experience with many, condoned or otherwise. That has nothing to do with Christianity, as there are Christian Swingers. I don't see this pro/con argument as a religious argument either, as religion is dogma, unlike spirituality. It saddens me that men and women accept less than what they deserve. I believe sex is a divine gift, and I treasure it. I don't see it as a team sport, which cheapens the gift. I choose to give my gift to the man I love, and expect the same of him. If he doesn't value my gift the same way that I value his, then I choose to free myself from him, which enables him to pursue what he values more than my gift. From personal experience, that is not always easy to do. It requires a great deal of love to free someone, and free yourself.
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